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Did The Government Use The Patriot Act To Push The Irs Into Investigating The Tea Party?

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Did The Government Use The Patriot Act To Push The Irs Into Investigating The Tea Party?

Postby Duante » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 pm

Read this and you tell me how easy this is.

The court was a compromise between those who wanted to leave U.S. intelligence agencies free from any restrictions and those who wanted intelligence agencies to apply for search warrants like other law-enforcement agencies. Congress required U.S. intelligence agencies (the FBI and National Security Agency) to apply for warrants for wiretaps and other surveillance on foreign governments and suspected foreign agents. But because the agencies are not investigating domestic crime, they do not have to meet the probable cause standard. They only have to certify that the purpose of the investigation is to track a foreign government or agent. They do not have to report to the court on the results of the surveillance. The court meets in secret with only government representatives present and has never denied an intelligence agency's application for a search warrant.

The Patriot Act expands all these exceptions to the probable-cause requirement. Section 215 of the act permits the FBI to go before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for an order to search for "any tangible things" connected to a terrorism suspect. The order would be granted as long as the FBI certifies that the search is "to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities [spying]." But the FBI would not need to meet the stronger standard of probable cause.

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

In Section 215, "any tangible things" may include almost any kind of property--such as books, documents, and computers. The FBI may also monitor or seize personal records held by public libraries, bookstores, medical offices, Internet providers, churches, political groups, universities, and other businesses and institutions.

The Patriot Act prohibits third parties served with Section 215 orders such as Internet providers and public librarians to inform anyone that the FBI has conducted a search of their records.

Section 216 of the Patriot Act extends pen-trap orders to include e-mail and web browsing. The FBI can ask Internet service providers to turn over a log of the web sites a person visits and the addresses of e-mail coming to and from the person's computer.

Another area of concern is Section 213 of the Patriot Act. It authorizes so-called "sneak- and-peek" searches for all federal criminal investigations. When applying for a search warrant, officers may show that there is "reasonable cause to believe that providing immediate notification . . . may have an adverse result." If the judge approves, then the FBI can delay notifying a citizen about the search for a "reasonable period." Thus, the FBI may search a citizen's home or business in secret. The FBI says these searches may be necessary to prevent the destruction of evidence or to keep from jeopardizing an ongoing secret investigation.
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Did The Government Use The Patriot Act To Push The Irs Into Investigating The Tea Party?

Postby Espowyes » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:30 am

The problem with the Patriot Act is that it can be abused if there is a corrupt government, we certainly found out, we have that problem with Obama as we also would have, if it were the Clintons; the Clintons would attack people who could provide proof for their numerous crimes, scandals and abuses of power.


Overall, as our personal freedoms are stripped away, layer by layer, all government agencies become more aggressive, knowing they can violate our rights by growing their power. Ultimately, government becomes an oppressor, as we see, in over half of the countries throughout the world.


Giving the Patriot Act rights to government is like making Michael Jackson a boys camp counselor, something bad is going to happen.
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Did The Government Use The Patriot Act To Push The Irs Into Investigating The Tea Party?

Postby chinua » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:30 pm

I believe not.
The investigations were entirely on IRS protocol so far as I know.

Concern arose as many tea party groups (they aren't unified) were being investigated while radical progressive and socialist groups were not singled out.
If the "Move On," "Occupy," and "99%" groups were also intensely investigated there would be no flap.

In defense of the IRS I must recognize the original libertarian (I am one of those) tea party pushes were against excessive taxation.
They naturally would use any opportunity to resist taxation.
Although most libertarians avoid overreaching exemptions, some have stretched it to prosecution.

I stringently follow IRS regulations but I do take every legitimate advantage I can find in its rules.
When I don't pay taxes I should pay it will be refusal not avoidance.
I will also be heavily armed, with an armed force of others behind me, to reject governments' self-serving, blood-sucking taxes.
Until then, I see no point in trying to sleaze out of them and I don't respect other libertarians who would.
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Postby Lacey » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:55 pm

The basic issue is extreme political organization requests tax exempt status.

IRS decides to investigate if this organization qualifies as tax exempt.

SCANDAL !!
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Postby Randale » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:21 pm

That seems to be a logical assumption.
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Postby Eder » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:27 am

The Government push no body.
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Postby Seung » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:34 am

Um, so how does any of this involve using the IRS to harass political opponents?
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